Old News, Rants, etc..

6/12/98 - Friday - "Coming Soon.."
Hey kids, now that the series has started (oh whoops, sorry, just the casting special has aired, I forget how technical some people like to be..), we're going to be reorganizing the site a little, and more importantly, moving to a new server - so there may be some downtime over the next week as Rob moves the .netTastic server onto it's own T1 line (yeah!)

In "Real World" news - rocketcharged beat us to the punch with an almost complete description of the first episode (because of our own laziness - we actually saw it two weeks ago) - one thing to look for, when Lindsay and Stephen first meet, they have a lively discussion about how long Stephen's legs are at one of the trolley stops in downtown Seattle.. at night.. their taxi's convienently dropped them both off about a mile and a half away from their house so they could take the trolley up there.. nobody takes these at night (and thus, you won't see anyone else on the trolley with them.. =)

Also - a preview of Episode 2, someone (Dave) leaves a scathing page from their journal "laying around" so someone else (happens to be Nate and Janet) will read it - unsigned, of course, it goes on to sound like whoever wrote it is racist and a general asshole - turns out to be a little "joke" Dave pulls to see how his new housemates react.. childish..  watch for more as the season progresses.. -- Rob

6/12/98 - Friday - "Place your bets.."
I just got off the phone with Vinnie the Snake, my bookie down in Vegas.  I wanted to know some odds for Real World Seattle, and this is what he came up with.

(Warning!  The following is intended for entertainment purposes only and should not be used for any kind of wagering.)

ODDS FOR VARIOUS POPULAR SINGLES TO BE PLAYED ON REAL WORLD SEATTLE

All songs by Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Alice in Chains, Soundgarden, Mother Love Bone, Temple of the Dog, Presidents of the United States of America, Mudhoney, The Posies, Sir Mix-A-Lot, Super Deluxe and all related and/or spin-off bands are off the board for obvious reasons.

"Gone Till November" by Wyclef Jean - 15:1
"Heroes" by The Wallflowers - 10:1
"Zoot Suit Riot" by Cherry Poppin' Daddies - 10:1
"Make 'Em Say Uhh!" by Master P - 7:1
"Frozen" by Madonna - 5:1
"Who Will Save Your Soul" by Jewel - 4:1
"I Get Lonely" by Janet Jackson - 4:1
"Bitter Sweet Symphony" by The Verve - 3:1
"Gettin' Jiggy Wit It" by Will Smith - 2:1
"Don't Drink the Water" by Dave Matthews Band - 2:1
"Real World" by Matchbox 20 - EVEN

And, of course...
ODDS FOR THE FINAL SONG TO BE PLAYED ON THE REAL WORLD SEATTLE
"Time of Your Life (Good Riddance)" by Green Day - 1:5
"Closing Time" by Semisonic - 2:1
-- J-Dawg

6/10/98 - Wednesday - "The Final Confrontation.."
Last Saturday (6/6), assorted furniture and housewares from the RW Seattle house were put up for sale in a benefit for the National Lyme Disease Foundation (apparently part of an effort to insure that future cast members don't get bit by a tick and then freak out on their castmates with three weeks to go).  An added bonus was an appearance by five of the castmates. Rob and I made the trip to IKEA's megastore in south Seattle for our final pre-season report and photo op.  What a deal, for $2.50 you get to buy a well-used plate to have signed by the present castmembers.  There was also some assorted furniture, kitchenware, and other trinkets.  So I bought a plate and took an opportunity to rub elbows with some celebrities.

Rebecca was what I expected, polite and quiet.  Steven was really cool, I chatted with him for about five minutes.  He doesn't seem at all fazed by the whole thing, and is taking his fifteen minutes with a big grain of salt
(though I did mention how Eric Nies managed to land Pamela Anderson Lee, and THAT lit his eyes up).  Janet and Lindsay were really sweet...very friendly, very outgoing.   I wish that I had a chance to meet up with them earlier, they seem like they would be really fun to hang out with...not to mention they ARE big time cuties.  Nate on the other hand...well, let's just say he didn't seem at all enthused to be there...then again, he was on the phone for quite sometime, maybe it was is girlfriend bitching at him again (I know, what the hell am I talking about, trust me, you'll find out soon enough).

After finally meeting some of them in person, I gotta say that the seem like a real nice bunch of kids.  Steven, Lindsay, and Janet were very approachable and likable people.   It almost makes me feel guilty that I'm going to spend the next 22 weeks ripping their show apart...but not quite. >:)

Anyways, it was a good time, I'm glad I got to meet them, and just a quick note to Lindsay and Janet:  If you're ever back in Seattle, feel free to look us up...we'd love to take you around town, hell, I'll even give you a place to crash. ;)  -- J-Dawg

6/2/98 - Tuesday - "15 minutes.."
Well, two minutes at least - check out this article in the Eastside Journal, we even got our big picture in the paper.. ooohh.. ahhh.. yeah, well hey, we're media whores at heart, what can we say..

5/27/98 - Press Day - "Don't let the door hit you in the..."
You don't realize just how hard it's been not posting this since Sunday, but we didn't want to risk the off chance that they would figure out how we managed the following:

Sunday Jeff and I had the displeasure of viewing the premier episode of The Real World - Seattle, and it was pretty darn close to what we expected.  The imagery was typical of what you'd see on a post card, they show the kids walking ALL over the city, but seemingly just down the block (funny thing is that in one scene they show them leaving Pier 70 where they live, and the next scene, which is supposed to be them walking towards Seattle Center, they are in front of Pier 69 walking towards Pier 70.   Ok, granted only Seattlites are really going to be able to nit-pick like that, but that's why over 7000 people have swung by here so far =)

Run down of the cast is basically as follows:   Stephen seems like a pretty mellow, cool guy, unfortunately he's underage, so I can't imagine he had too fun of a nightlife around here.  Irene seems like a pill, and is definitely the homely one of the bunch, I can see why she gets booted later on.   Janet seems very close to a lot of the sorority girls at Wazzu - not necessarily a bad thing, just in attitude, mannerisms, etc - she also wants to fire up Nathan.   Dave seems like an Eric-wanna-be (from the first season).  His best friend Nathan, well... we gotta feel sorry for Nathan, because it is established very quickly that he has an incredibly whiny girlfriend back home who is one of these women who insist on being the center of the world, and if they're not, they're going to make life hell.   Rebecca seems kinda quiet - and finally, Lindsay seems like a little fireball waiting to explode.

This season you can expect a lot of talk about sex, and from the impressions from the first episode, they are trying to see how many cast members they can get in the sack together this season.  The "house" (i use that term very liberally) is stocked with plenty of books about SEX and MASSAGE, and there's no door on the bathroom.  Keep your eyes peeled here after the series starts on June 9th for reviews, insights and more blatant honesty as the series progresses!  --Rob and Jeff

5/25/98 - Monday - "We want your pics"
Now that the Stranger's contest is over and none of us are going to win any money now, help us fill the site with your pictures!  We don't have anything to offer other than the chance to have your photography displayed on a very public and quite busy site, but hey, it's a great chance to stick it to MTV =)  So E-Mail us your scanned pictures, or drop us a note and we'll give you the ultra-secret mailing address for us and we'll scan them in for you - or, if you've got a site of your own, let us know, and we'll link to your pics there..

5/20/98 - Wednesday - "It's almost over kids..."
Ok, ok, so it's been awhile since we updated the site - like we said, we DO have real jobs too, and at least Rob has been working close to 7 days a week at it. Wah.   Anyway, to summarize what's happened since our last update: Not a whole lot.   Rebecca reportedly quit the show, oh whoops, it was Irene getting kicked out, gotta love how the rumour mill works around here =)   The kids are still doing their horrible radio show (we've got some sound bites on tape, i just need to find a walkman to get them into the computer, at which point we'll have them up and you can listen for yourselves).  Jeff ran into Dave and the camera crew down at Belltown Billiards the other weekend and he didn't look good, thrilled or even happy to be alive - think fame is starting to wear on them a little?
Shooting should be wrapping up here fairly soon, rumour has it that they are having their "press day" soon (we could have gone to this, but we put up this website instead, oh well..)   So we're sure that they will start airing with a month or two (they've got to have time to edit out all those "Seattle thinks the Real World Sucks!" t-shirts out of their film - we'll all know what those blurs say though >=]   more updates as they come...  -- Rob

4/27/98 - Monday - "It isn't bad enough that they're breaking laws..."
Now they are messing with the sanctity of Seattle music as well.  I received a note from caryn at a major Pearl Jam site, www.fivehorizons.com, about the poster you see on the right here.  For those of you not in the know, Mookie Blaylock was PJ's name when they were just playing clubs around town and not the world famous rock stars they are now.   Actually, the concept of a big band playing as an unknown name isn't all that uncommon here in Seattle (most of the major bands or members of them have done things like this somewhat recently.. example: Mad Season was playing around town as "the Gacy Bunch" for awhile, etc..)   Anyway, this all turned out to be some "practical joke" one RW cast member was scripted to pull on another that failed miserably.  What you can't see on the little pic here is that it also mentions "featuring members of Green River and M.L.B. (Mother Love Bone)" - bands most of the PJ members were in at one time..   For more information, check out this story at http://www.fivehorizons.com/misc/mookie.html#update - ALSO, remember those pics  we promised you when Janet's mom was in town? Well, I finally got around to scanning the damn things, so they're up in the sightings section now, check them out! -- Rob

4/22/98 - Tuesday - "You've got to be fucking kidding me."
That's it - any shred of reality is gone, the "kids" started their radio show last night on the end and it sounds worse than a freshman on KZUU at Washington State. Here's Jeff's review of the situation:
So I called KNDD last night around 1:30, and guess who picks up the phone? None other than Janet herself. She keeps asking me who I am, I keep telling her, then I mention the Real World, and she says "who's the real world?", so then I say "oh come on, I knew it was you guys when I heard Irene and Steven's names." Then I mention the site; I could be wrong but I think Janet was mid-sentence when I was suddenly hung up on. I called back and some guy answered. I asked for Janet, and he said "no, there's no Janet here, I think you got the wrong number." So I say, "No, I just talked to her a minute ago." Brief pause, then the guy said "OK, thanks for calling," and hung up. So then I call back about ten minutes later and ask for Irene, and what do you know, it is Irene. She asks me who I am and this time I use a different name, but the producers were obviously on to me, and I got hung up on right away. <rant>So this is what happens when I try to talk to the cast, I get hung up on either by the cast or someone on the crew. Once again, they demonstrate just how bogus this show is getting, the poor little bastards don't even get to speak for themselves anymore. The cast has been here for nearly three months now, and I have heard very few stories of people having a positive encounter with any of them. Well kids, stay enclaved in your $2 million dollar waterfront home, I guess you guys don't care about getting out there and meeting new people, you just prefer to be herded around by those border collies a.k.a. "The Real World" production crew. Enjoy your last month of captivity....</rant> BTW, here's the scoop on their radio show, "Dead Air" - If you want to listen to a bunch of amateurs giggle on the air, then tune in to KNDD 107.7 from 12am - 2am PDT Monday thru Wednesday. Their on-air telephone number is 206-421-1077; make sure that you mention our website, then you too can brag to your friends that you were hung up on by "The Real World" cast!    -- J-Dawg
By the way... Other sites may be reporting that "Irene" isn't really Irene, well hey, I've got this to add: if you actually listen to their excuse for a radio show, they refer to Irene a lot, and if you go searching... hard.. you can find evidence that an Irene McGee played soccer at Georgetown. Bite on that kids. -R

4/11/98 - Saturday - "Oh but wait, there's more..."
Best thing about the internet? It connects everybody and gets us info in the process.  Thanks to an anonymous student at the University of Virginia, we've now confirmed that "Rebecca" has a last name - You can read all about her and see a lousy B&W photo of her from this article printed in their school newspaper (and who says college papers are good for nothing..) - Seattle, meet Rebecca Lord, college sophomore. And from Virginia... just like at least 2 other cast members..  <rant>Why don't they get a clue and have locals? Throw in 4 locals and import the rest so they actually go out and do stuff around town that doesn't have to be arranged by the producers.. maybe bring some reality back to the show</rant>  -- Rob

4/8/98 - Wednesday - "New Random Info"
(the pictures are coming, although the night ones didn't turn out - Jeff's scanner crapped out on him so the daylight ones aren't too bad.. but are out of range of Rob's scanner =)
roberta sloane from hotmail dropped us a wonderful little page/picture she found - it's Dave Burns' web page - we grabbed it locally in case they think to take it down too.. =)
Also, from a "Lily Rabbit" we received this rumour/tip: "Rebecca" is apparently from Richmond, VA and goes to VCU - you'd think the producer's minivan broke down in Virginia, wouldn't ya...  -- Rob

4/5/98 - Sunday - "You kids better behave now..."
We here in the unreal world hope that Janet had time to hide her smokes or whatever vice she has that mom doesn't know about (c'mon, we've all got one or two..) because Mom's in town this weekend, oh, but wait, so are the siblings too!  It was sunday, we were bored, so Jeff and I figured, "Hey, let's see what's going on at Pier 70," and what a wonderful sense of timing we had - we caught Janet taking a stroll along the waterfront with her mom, and then a little later we caught the whole bunch hopping into a horse-drawn carriage for a cruise up to Pike Place market. -- Rob

Now let's examine the reality here a little - first off, the horse drawn carriages never go up to Pier 70, they operate in Pioneer Square (about a mile or so away) and the waterfront area immediately near PiSq   (Big ass hole number one..)  Big ass hole number two, and here's the kicker, apparently the "real world" doesn't have any traffic laws!!   Not only did they go the wrong way up a one-way street, but they DID IT TWICE.   Where's Johnny Law when it's the OTHER people breaking the traffic laws, huh?   We'll have some new pics up tomorrow or the next day when we get them developed (and hopefully the night ones will come out this time.. =)  -- Rob

3/30/98 - Monday - "Watch this space..."
Well kids, it's been a week and so far we're up to about 700 hits on the site and have already received our first "cease and desist" e-mail about some of the pictures we had up (ok, the ones we blatantly stole from andy savage's site (who didn't even have the courtesy to e-mail us himself))

Why are we doing this you may ask?  Are we some of those hateful anti-(insert music video tv network here) groups just out to make their lives hell? Of course not! We're some of those anti-foreigner Seattlittes who believe that people shouldn't pretend that anything you see on a staged TV show is close to reality. =)   Watch this space for sighting information, gossip, and the occasional rant by myself or Jeff.  In the meantime, have fun, life is not that serious...      -- Rob

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