the lovely mail we've gotten idiots.. Definitive proof that there are people out there that take their television, internet and lives far too seriously..

We kinda wondered...
... how long it would take before we started seeing proof that there are people out there that take this show and their lives way too seriously.  In this section we will highlight their folly, as well as publicly reply (because c'mon now, you don't send flame mail unless you expect a response, right?)  Hopefully some people may even have balls enough to send us mail from their real e-mail addresses.   Enjoy.

.. for awhile we were beginning to think that we were absoultely right because no one was taking the time to disagree with us, guess our busted egos were getting the best of us..

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If you actually read this, you have problems. Even if you didn't read this,
you still have problems, psycho!

Reply: We really don't have a whitty reply at all for this, but liked the title enough to post it.  (oh hey, another message header from AOL.. maybe we'll get an intelligent email from that source one of these days..)


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Subject: lighten up...........
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You need to lighten up just a little, this whole thing is JUST FOR FUN you
dont need to bash everything that goes on, it sounds like they had fun, so
maybe you could to if you were not always looking at th bad side of it.
After reading your web site, you came across as a total ass, someone that
gives no respect, so you will in return get none from me. Maybe this will
make you think twice about what you choose to right next time.

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ok, now here is my second letter two you guys. I live in seattle and to say
that shit about them is inmature, I have one quetion to ask
you................do you know them personaly............NO! you don't know
them personaly so what are you guys trying to say? Lighten up, don't watch
the show for reality if you don't think it is, watch it for fun! And if you
dis-like it so much don't watch it at all !!!!!!!!! We don't need people
like you to say negitive stuff like this when you don't really know what
you are talking about at all !!

Reply: But yet you felt the inherent need to "right" us "too" messages.  Unfortunately this is a firm example that the Seattle preschool system is sadly at a lower level just like the rest of the country's public schools have fallen to.  Won't you please help children like Dave and make your donation of at least one properly spelled word a day in email to the addresses linked above.  Thank you for your support.


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I have a real problem with your site, it Sucks Dick! You have no idea what the show is really about. Its a very valid experience for the cast members. The show is really funny, I think youre jealous. Sooooooo jealous! Imagine living with people you will learn to love so much, then having to leave them after 5 months! And imagine all the things they did in 5 months, you dont think it might hurt them if they come across your fucking site? e-mail me pleazzze at maese@zianet.com !!!!!!!!! I would really like to fucking cuss a lot more but I think youd be too offended!

Daniel Maese.

Reply: We hope his mom knows how he's using the family account.  If you're that interested in a flame war, please check out usenet.


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Where do I even begin to start? Oh yeah! I know. Are you guys as big of
jack asses as you seem? Did you even catch the damn episode where Steve hit
Irene? I say hit as in once. You idiots. After she called him a homosexual
, in such an insulting manner. Oh yeah. One other thing. Did you hear what
the other members of the cast said? Of course not. The producers left the
decision to kick Steve out of the house to each of them. One vote would have
done it. No one did. One other thing. Steve and MTV couldn't have been
advocating domestic violence especially after he apologized and went to
therapy. Not only that, but in an age where athletes and other professionals
commit such acts and do it again he didn't. Were you paying attention? Hell
no. You were to busy spanking some sort of primate that is located between
your legs. Do me a favor and stop wasting space on the web and do something
more suited for morons like yourself like a helping inmates with their soap
droppage crises in the showers.

Reply: Where do WE even start.  This is exactly the kind of person we love to see out on the Internet - an AOL user that clearly knows it all.  We'd grace this with more of a response, but we're too busy spanking our monkey's while we wait to get through to AOL so we can hear that neato "Welcome, You've got mail." .wav file.


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wanna know the best part? The best part is, is that you guys are so jealous of the Real World Seattle Cast Members. You wanna down 'em, becuz they got free rent in a dream house, you could never in your life afford!!!! and they chose seattle for good reasons. and then you citizens and dickheads like you wanna putting 'em down. Hope they never do a show in your town or state again! Damn!

Jeremy Slater,
iluvtherealworld@hotmail.com

oh and P.S.>>>>>>>>Notice I have the balls to put down my real name and e-mail address, so let's see whose childish in their ways.

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Reply: balls is such a relative term.. jealous? hardly - although you are right about us never living in a dream house like that, because it's illegal - Pier 70 isn't zoned for residential, the only way MTV/Bunim-Murray got away with it was because they had it registered as a "24 hour film set."    Afford isn't exactly an issue though you see because one of the wonderful things about the computer industry is that there's money flowing like water around it, my current plan is to retire around 35-40 just because i can.  We're still trying to decide what's more fun now, ripping on an admittedly bad show, or pissing you people off.. gotta love networks..


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Actually, the dates the computer sent are undoubtedly wrong because Friday night I was out with my boyfriend and our friends. Saturday night, however, I was surfing after doing homework ( college does recquire some sacrifice) and waiting on him to get off work. So basically what you're saying is some people from the cast busted your ego and now you have this web page out of spite? You people really don't scare me, I just get really fucking offended when people make closed minded assumptions about others and refer to people in terms that are completely immature and uneducated. Don't take it so personally when someone challenges your smart ass remarks. It's actually downright funny to see someone dedicate so much time to dogging people and bitching in general.

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From: the unreal world of seattle, washington <realworld@nettastic.com>
To: 'Kristin' <kmoo@innova.net>
Date: Sunday, October 04, 1998 7:17 AM
Subject: RE:

> hardly.
>
> we judge because we've seen more that just what you see on "T.V." -
>because we and people we know had the unfortunate pleasure of
>interacting with the "cast" while they were actually up here - so we
>don't judge completely w/out basis.
>
> on the other hand - you're sitting around surfing looking for this
>information on a friday night, so really now - who needs to get a life?
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kristin [mailto:kmoo@innova.net]
>Sent: Friday, October 02, 1998 7:28 PM
>To: realworld@nettastic.com
>Subject:
>
>
>Why do you people rush to judge anyone? You don't know if Stephen's gay
>or if Irene is or is not a bitch. And if you hate the show so much, why
>spend so much time studying every single episode? Looks to me like you
>guys got bullied too much in high school. Get a life! If you don't
>like it, don't watch it!

Reply: well, we didn't get bullied in high school, we don't spend more than 35 minutes a week combined working on this site (30 of that is thoroughly wasted actually watching the show..), and we're not out to scare anybody.  We both went to major colleges, and graduated, and do not apologize a single bit for not buying in to that PC bullshit that is getting pumped into the minds of school children everywhere. 

<rant> If we use an "offensive" term on this site, it's meant to be that way as a direct reflection of the SINGLE PERSON currently in discussion - here's a newsflash people, if you're not specifically mentioned, or the direct target of some sort of derogatory term, then it isn't directed at you - the world is a mean place and there are a lot of people in it that bring on their own pain - deal with it. </rant>

And so it begins: this person was so superior, that they had to send us anonymous mail from the browser of what i'm guessing to be a computer lab at brown u. - all that money spent on education, you'd think they'd know their own name.

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you guys say that you actually have real job??? it seems like you spend
an awful lot of time digging up dirt on the cast members. the best part
about it is that most of your information is wrong - trust me. that
picture that you think is of irene is someone else.....irene looks a lot
different. if i didn't think that you guys were a bunch of putzes i'd
actually give you the real scoop on everyone. too bad you guys are
losers.........

our juvenile reply(gotta keep the reply at the same level you know)..
yes, we do have real jobs, rob for a software company, as well as .netTastic and jeff owns his own business - really, if you had half an idea about information retrieval you'd realize that most information we've got has been the product of a few simple internet queries (we're not talking above your head yet, are we?)  all in all about 3 hours total have been spent on this site in the 2 weeks of its existence, and most of that has been in graphic design and programming, so hardly a lot of time between 2 people (that's about 1.5 hours each if you can't do the math).
we will admit, that we're a little curious how someone in rhode island could possibly have the "scoop" on all the cast members when we as well as others that have gathered first hand information for us are actually here IN seattle, but we're putzes, so i guess i can see why that wouldn't be obvious to us..
we'd respond to the loser comment, but how can we to someone who won't use their real email address..

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